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Predicated upon both Cardano's eminent intellect and astute observations, the following persons merit an IQ rating of 175+

Ptolemy
Aristotle
Euclid
Duns Scotus
Swineshead
Apollonius
Archytas
Eutocios
al Khwarizmi (Father of Algebra)
al Kindi (First Arab Philosopher, Father of Cryptography)
Heber Hispanus (Jabir ibn Aflah)
Galen
Vitruvius

Source:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=CfGPAg ... as&f=false

So far I can only get access to the following quote:

“Yet he named, as the ten greatest intellects in history, men not overwhelmingly Christian: Archimedes, Aristotle, Euclid, Apollonius of Perga, Archytas of Tarentum, al Khwarizmi, al-Kindi, Geber, Duns Scotus, and Richard Swineshead, all …”
— Will Durant (year), The Complete Story of Our Civilization (pg. #)

Can you type the rest of the quote for us, and year, and page #?

Also, I took you out of the new user category, so that you should now be able to post without approval (for post to be seen).

Ptolemy | IQ:175|#241
Aristotle | IQ:195|#9
Euclid | IQ:185|#54
Duns Scotus | IQ:150|#893

Swineshead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Swineshead

“The great mathematician Gerolamo Cardano include Swineshead among the twelve greatest thinkers of all time.”
— George Sarton (1975), Introduction to the History of Science (pg. 738)

Curious that Swineshead is cited by Robert Burton:
https://eoht.info/page/Robert%20Burton

Apollonius | IQ:170|#385

Archytas (Allen 100:52) | Teacher of Eudoxus
Eutocios [?]

al Khwarizmi | IQ:170|#526
al Kindi | IQ:160|#763

Heber Hispanus (Jabir ibn Aflah)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabir_ibn_Aflah

Note: this is the main Geber:
https://eoht.info/page/Geber

Galen | IQ:170|#474
Vitruvius | IQ:165|#557

Duns Scotus probably needs to go higher; but I have a hard time figuring him out? His name is always popping up, but I can't figure out why?

“Swineshead’s intellect was ‘beyond the measure’ of human ingenuity’.
— Julius Caesar Scaliger (c.1540), Publication; cited by Reijer Hooykaas (1976) in Fact, Faith, and Fiction in the Development of Science (pg. 138)

According to Hooykaas, Cardano ordered his 12-person ranking as follows:

1. Archimedes
2. Aristotle
3. Swineshead
4. Euclid

Will have to find original source, and get correct order?

I found this so far:

“The key scientists are: Archimedes, Ptolemy, Aristotle, Euclid, Scotus, Swineshead, Apollonius, Archytas, Eutocios, al Khwarizmi al Kindi, Heber Hispanus, Galen, and Vitruvius.”
— Gerolamo Cardano (1550), De Subtilitate (§16: De Scientiss)

Added here:
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Gerolamo_Cardano

Not sure about the exact translation, as I can't find the exact Latin passage.

I did find he is referring to this Eutocius (who seems to be new to me):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutocius_of_Ascalon

Aside from Cardano's credible assessment, further impetus to increase al-Khwarizmi's approximated IQ to 175, is his position in the rankings of history's eminent mathematicians (besting many whom are currently ranked higher than him on the Hmolpedia 2000):

#8
https://www.sapaviva.com/the-50-greates ... maticians/

#37
https://fabpedigree.com/james/mathmen.htm

Further claim to increase the appraisal for Al Kindi's IQ to 175.

http://ishim.net/ishimj/2/03.pdf

Source:
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= ... ge&seq=575


Title: Introduction to the history of science
Author: George Sarton
Year of Publication: 1927
Page: 575

Yes, I’ll process those considerations. Presently, my mind is a little over-processed, with the migration in process (to make any adjustments); with the list now at about 1,100 geniuses. Migrating the IQ tables over to the new wiki is a bit of an absorbing process.

In the last few hours, to note, I modified all the tables, so that there is an IQR (real), IQE (estimates) separate; so that in the “full list” (of 1,100 names), now, you can see the # and IQR in the first two columns (which is helpful):
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_minds_(full_list)

Same for candidates page:
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_candidates

What is your estimate of the IQs of each of the 12 Cardano geniuses?

Off the top of my head, Kindi was probably smarter than Khwarizmi, generally speaking?
https://eoht.info/page/Al-Kindi

Khwarizmi is cited 12 times in Hmolpedia 2020, but I have not yet written an article on him.
Anyway, out of time, for now.

Sadi-Carnot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:28 am Yes, I’ll process those considerations. Presently, my mind is a little over-processed, with the migration in process (to make any adjustments); with the list now at about 1,100 geniuses. Migrating the IQ tables over to the new wiki is a bit of an absorbing process.

In the last few hours, to note, I modified all the tables, so that there is an IQR (real), IQE (estimates) separate; so that in the “full list” (of 1,100 names), now, you can see the # and IQR in the first two columns (which is helpful):
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_minds_(full_list)

The tremendous amount of time and energy that you have labored with this site (and its predecessors) does not go unnoticed!

Sadi-Carnot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:28 amWhat is your estimate of the IQs of each of the 12 Cardano geniuses?

I can't speak with regards to the individual IQ's as I am not acquainted with many of their works, but I will say that for Cardano to make such a bold assertion it is likely that he viewed these individuals as equal or greater to himself (IQ 175).






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