Missing Medieval Geniuses

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Missing Medieval Geniuses

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Some names to start off considering of missing medieval geniuses, comparing with the full list (https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_minds_(full_list)):
John Scotus Eriugena
Nicole Oresme
Jean Buridan
Anselm of Canterbury
Peter Abelard
John Wycliffe
Giovanni Pico della Mirandola
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Hi Philoepisteme, good to see that you migrated over to the new forum. Took me a little while to get back and check in here, as I have been busy getting the genius tables situated. You will see that today I added in a welcome template box to the main page, that directs people to the forum:

https://hmolpedia.com/page/Template:MainPage/Top
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Main_Page

This new MediaWiki platform is going to make the growth of the geniuses and minds table grow a lot faster, per reason that the software is a lot easier and quicker to edit and change, in respect to tables.

I keep an updated count of all the genius ranking lists here:

https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_min ... ,200#Count

which as of today has a total of 1,102 names (1,044 historical + 58 existive), a number of which were slated in (or grandfathered in) per your candidacy suggestions, as you might have noticed. Presently, I am amassing names, which is at the 99+ level today, in the following candidates page:

https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_candidates

Soon, I will migrated all of these into the top 2,000 tables, which will then put the “full list” above the 1,040+ person mark:

https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_minds_(full_list)

which will then yield a better and more broad spectrum for the IQ range of about 135 to the top.
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Re: “new candidates”, as of today:

1. John Eriugena | #813
2. Nicole Oresme | He is slated; I am pretty much migrating all the names on this list
http://humanthermodynamics.wikifoundry. ... 20geniuses
Over to new top 2000 candidates page (added 4 names earlier today)
3. Jean Buridan | Probably a good idea; he’s already cited in several notable places in Hmolpedia, e.g. key word “Buridan” in the full pdf:
https://hmolpedia.com/Hmolpedia2020.pdf
4. Anselm of Canterbury | (Cattell 1000:620) (RGM:1055|1,350+) (Stokes 100:25|Scolastics) (Perry 80:65|God) (CR:6) cited by Feuerbach in his “The Natural Sciences and the Revolution” (1850).
5. Peter Abelard | #712
6. John Wycliffe (c.1325-1384) | (Cattell 1000:224) (Gottlieb 1000:337) In 1415, he was declared a heretic, his writings were banned, and his body was exhumed and his bones were burned.
7. Giovanni Pico della Mirandola | Name cited in Pauli’s 1949 letter to Ralph Kronig on subject of the lack of discussion of love in the 20th century, wherein Goethe’s Elective Affinities is discussed.

Will have to ruminate on these last two, as there are new to me?
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Today I slated in Oresme, Buridan, and Anselm:
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Top_2000_can ... _Unordered
Buridan seems to be the smartest of the three.
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The website does work and present better, Thims. Good to know that it will proceed more smoothly. New additions are looking good, including some that I had thought about. Incidentally, pandemics are good for rearranging bonds.

Some comments on notability of Wycliffe and Mirandola. Wycliffe seems to be a proto-Luther figure, or even a pre-Luther Luther. He wrote the first full English vernacular translations of the bible and attacked church authority. Mirandola is known for his paradigmatic manifesto of Renaissance humanism contra medievalism ('Oration on the Dignity of Man'). He seems to represent the close of medievalism. This manifesto introduced his '900 Theses' work, apparently "the first printed book to be universally banned by the Church". From what I gather, this work is meant to address the entire gamut of philosophical points composing his Neoplatonic humanist worldview.
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Re: “Incidentally, pandemics are good for rearranging bonds”, yes it brings about a transition state:
https://eoht.info/page/Transition+state
Note: presently all of the 5,376-articles are available as html files (as above), but you have to use a capital first letter in the first letter article name (~/page/Transition+state [works] vs ~/page/transition+state [doesn’t work]) to make the file render. Have new Hmolpedia site programmer working on this:
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Nischay_Nahata

I like to think about Mar 2020, in respect to my scenario, akin to how Aug 1665 was for Newton, wherein he, thereby, was “freed up”, so to say, to do groundbreaking work on calculus, optics, and gravitation. Myself, it allowed me to finish up through the Watt chapter (i.e. all the vacuum experimenters and engine pioneers) of my HCT manuscript:
http://www.humanthermodynamics.com/HCT.pdf

Also to invent the new working BE/AE dating system (which is slowly being employed in the majority of Hmolpedia articles and genius listings):
https://hmolpedia.com/page/AE
https://hmolpedia.com/page/BE

Note 2: in this forum, it seems that I have to sign in here and “approve” all comments before they are seen, which is coded into the forum to prevent spam, I guess (e.g. 9 of the last 10 users and attempted posts, were spam bots, selling products). So I guess, if, at times, I am away from this forum, for days or a week, it may take time before comments are seen and responded to. I'll check and see if there is a way I can give established users, like you, open posting approval?

Re: “Wycliffe”, speaking about pandemics, it seems that the “Black Death” plague (1348-1350), which took 200 million people, had something to do with Wycliffe eventually doing the first English translation of the entire Bible (Old+New):
https://biblemanuscriptsociety.com/Bibl ... iffe-Bible
Anyway, will ruminate on him.
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After digging around on Wycliffe more, I ended up slating him into the candidate list. Interesting how his version "out of nothing":

“In the beginning, god made heaven and earth out of nothing.”
— John Wycliffe (1382), Bible (Genesis 1.1)

Is closer to the original Nesi-Amsu papyrus (300BC) version, than as compared to the white-washed King James version:

“Not existed heaven, not existed earth, not had been created.”
— Anon (310BC), Nesi-Amsu Papyrus, Egyptian Creation

“In the beginning, god created heaven and earth.”
— King James (1600), Bible (Genesis 1.1)

http://humanthermodynamics.wikifoundry. ... written%3F

The "out of nothing" is code for the Greek Delta, or void of Hermopolis:
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Gematria#Delta_.7C_345

Related to his 1382 English Bible translation, this last month or so, I learned that the Bible means 3.14 (Π) in Greek:
https://hmolpedia.com/page/Gematria#Bib ... .7C_.CF.80
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Interesting comments re: pandemics and transition states. This reminds me of your 2005 table "Poll: Most Life Changing and Least Life Changing Variations of Cessation" and EPD; one wonders if a similar tabulation may be made for events on a societal or civilisational level, linking these tables on individual and societal perspectives to genius products in turn.

Another missing medieval genius name to amplify:
Guido of Arezzo (music notation and solmization invention)
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Guido of Arezzo
(1991-1033)

(Gottlieb 1000:408)
Interesting; being compared to Boethius, he mist be of some repute?
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