Re: Carnap
"G¨odel, discoverer of mathematical undecidability, took a proreligious view; Carnap,
one of the founders of analytical philosophy, an antireligious view. By the time of the discussion,
Carnap had liberalized his ideas on theoretical concepts of science: he believed that observational
terms do not suffice for an exhaustive definition of theoretical concepts. Then, responded G¨odel,
one should formulate a theory or metatheory that is consistent with scientific rationality, yet also
encompasses theology. Carnap considered such theories unproductive ... Carnap claims that no scientist would consider such an attempt worthwhile, in particular since we understand scientifically that religion is nothing but a
psychological consequence of certain experiences in early childhood."
https://www.eb.tuebingen.mpg.de/fileadm ... goedel.pdf
Re: Ramsey
"Despite his atheism, Ramsey was "quite tolerant" towards his brother when the latter decided to become a priest in the Church of England"
"Ramsey's good humour and tolerance could surmount quite profound differences on matters which he took very seriously, like religion. Lettice Ramsey described him as
a militant atheist - definitely. We were married in a Registry Office, wouldn't have dreamed of being married in a church, and he was really quite a militant atheist, not an agnostic - he was an atheist.
But when I asked her therefore how Ramsey got on with his younger brother, she replied 'Oh, I think on very friendly terms even though their outlook was so different' - an impression which Lord Ramsey confirmed:
Well, in I suppose early teenage stage he had been religious up to a point. He dropped religion, rejected it as an unsound and irrelevant occupation, and did move right away from it. "
https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/bitstr ... sequence=5
"The two brothers later diverged in religious matters as well. Frank was an atheist by the age of thirteen; Michael entered the Anglican Church and became the Archbishop of Canterbury. ... In love and full of ideas, Ramsey said in early 1925, “I find, just now at least, the world a pleasant and exciting place.” This was in a talk he gave to the Apostles, a select and venerable Cambridge discussion club. Ramsey’s main topic that evening was whether there was anything left for such clubs to talk about. The rise of science and the fading of religion meant that the old questions were becoming “either technical or ridiculous,” or so Ramsey argued. He half seriously suggested that conversation, except among experts, was now just a matter of saying how one felt and comparing notes with others. But he ended with a twist. Some might find the world an unpleasant place, yet he had reason on his side—not because any facts supported him but because a sunny attitude did one more good. “It is pleasanter to be thrilled than to be depressed, and not merely pleasanter but better for all one’s activities.”"
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020 ... t-too-fast
see also:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/frank-rams ... 1585322801
https://blog.oup.com/2020/02/the-remark ... nk-ramsey/
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/fran ... hilosophy/