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Re: academic lawyer/philosopher [career] might work?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:32 pm
by Sadi-Carnot
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Response here:
Re: how an “academic lawyer/philosopher [career] might work on their fields in a manner congruent with your thermodynamic theory of morality and social relations”?

First and foremost, I would say start by studying the Goethe timeline:

Notice one on 6 Aug 1771, Goethe, age 22, becomes a lawyer, and how he originally had his law dissertation (“The Legislature, On the Power of the Magistrate to Determine Religion and Culture”) rejected for questioning Christian morality; for arguing such things as:

“Jesus Christ is not the author of Christianity; it is a subject composed by a number of wise men and is merely a rational, political institution.”
— Goethe (1771), original law dissertation
To which he responded by writing his Positions of Rights, a set of 56 theses on how morality can be based on natural law, and the question of what is Juris (Latin) or Right (English) based accordingly thereon:

You can see the film rendition, from Young Goethe in Love (2011), of Goethe, as a student, getting his first dissertation rejected, after which he writes “bite me” in the snow outside of the law school:

Hence, write off the bat, we see that even in 1771 Germany, that attempting to usurp Christian morality in the legal system with natural morality, goes against some 5,000+ years of deeply ingrained beliefs. Hence, as a lawyer in the modern age, you will be faced with this in multi-fold layers.

Secondly, thermodynamic-morality as compared to theological-morality, are both theta-based moral systems, i.e. heat or solar morality systems:

Goethe was the first to broach this problem. As he famously said, what is “moral” in nature and society, is found in the “moral symbols” of affinity chemistry, citing Torbern Bergman’s 1775 textbook as the prime citation.

Stepping forward to 29 Jan 1830, in the Goethe timeline, you will see that Goethe attacked the 6th commandment of the Bible in his 1809 Elective Affinities, i.e. the assertion that one is “immoral” if, when in a state of marriage bond, they even look at another attractive person.

In 1700 to 1882, all of this was discussed in the logic of “affinities” or the forces that make people or chemicals “choose” to do things. Hence, compare how Diderot in his love letters to Sophie speaks about uniting with her in the after-existence, in respect to the “law of affinity”, which holds even after a person is gone, and also how in his Letter on the Blind he ridicules the then status quo model of morality with reference to the fact that a blind person cannot know that public indecency is immoral because they have no sight, hence all morals can be deconstructed in this sense:

Re: academic lawyer/philosopher [career] might work?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:50 pm
by Sadi-Carnot
Also, legal applications of thermodynamics of morality get complex quickly. Keyword search "homosexuality" in the Beg-Thims debate;

This is illegal and immoral in Islamic countries, but legal and moral in western countries. Hence, I tried to debate Mirza Beg on this matter, in respect to "Gibbs energy" measurements.

Also, for a simple description of why "stealing" is wrong, see the follower stealing model, employed to explain to a group of children why stealing flowers from a flower shop is wrong according to the laws of the universe:

See: ref #2 and #3 in particular.

Re: academic lawyer/philosopher [career] might work?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:55 pm
by Sadi-Carnot
“Grotius thought that in relations between nations there were natural laws which needed only research and
reason to discover their principles.”
— Howard W. Odum (1929), Introduction to Social Research

Grotius is the #1 ranked Pantheon lawyer. He had some type of "natural law" theory of legal relations between nations, which, as a recall is good.

In short, all "laws" one debates or argues about in court or in legal proceedings, can be argued correctly according to the basis of how we now defined "natural" thermodynamically: